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Optimistic Paranoid

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Actor Dies On Hike
An actor who appeared in the “Harry Potter” films died while hiking in Death Valley, CA it was reported on Friday.

The body of Dave Legeno, who played werewolf villain Fenrir Greyback in the series, was found by fellow hikers and was helicoptered out on Sunday, TMZ reported.

The 50 year old British actor was also a professional fighter and appeared inn “Snatch” and “Batman Begins”.


What kind of idiot goes hiking in Death Valley in the middle of JULY fer crissakes?

I'm looking forward to seeing it, but I plan to DRIVE in the WINTER!

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John
 
Too many people forget the "WILD" part of wilderness. I consider this as part of what I call the "Disneyfication" of America. The media makes us believe all the furry animals are our cuddly friends, and nature is a wonderful and caring entity put here for our amusement.

Then too late they learn Nature can be very cruel and heartless, and we are not always at the top of the food chain.
 
I'm waiting for some group/government to want to spend millions of taxpayers money to "educate" people by putting up signs and create TV/radio commercials informing people that when its 116 in the desert/wilderness they must take precautions as it's not common sense anymore.
 
Optimistic Paranoid said:
What kind of idiot goes hiking in Death Valley in the middle of JULY fer crissakes?

A dead one.

Seriously even in Roswell (NM), I don't think enough people realize what is happening. I know we have to be very careful about staying hydrated. Because we don't seem to sweat, we don't realize just how much water our bodies are losing. That is the dangerous part. Normally people sweat and think "I need to drink more water because look how much I am sweating". But with the air as dry as it is, neither David, nor I sweat much. And the hotter it gets, the less we seem to sweat. But we are sweating. It just evaporates as fast as we sweat. I have a hard time staying hydrated. But winter is almost as bad. With every breath I lose precious moisture.

At work, we are told we should be drinking 8 oz of water every 15 minutes during the summer. I can promise you I do not get that much water at work. I get 1.5 litres at work. And there are times when I get as much as 2 litres. I simply don't have the time to drink all that water.
So I try to make it up at home. I don't think I am successful all the time.
 
First time I hiked the Grand Canyon, I was amazed at the number of people half way down the trail wearing a tank top, shorts, flip-flops, beet red (sunburned), and carrying only a 12 oz (usually almost empty) water bottle. Darwin at work.
-- Spiff
 
There was a pro mma fighter that went training in the desert and died, a really nice guy named evan tanner (was ufc champion once). i hear about guys who train in high heat on purpose, but i think they are confused between desert and a gym with ac turned off...
 
at the same token, I drove a semi truck up the AlCan highway in January a few years back.

at one point, way up in the Yukon, I stopped to have a pee alongside the road. I was wearing my usual Converse All-Stars, sweat-pants, and a sweatshirt. Yeah, it was cold, but I was only out for a few minutes, and was back in my truck.

I turned on the radio, and the weather report came on, letting me know that it was -50* out that morning!!!

"Hmmmm", I thought..."it didn't seem that cold out".

that's when it dawned on me, that this is exactally how people get hurt out here!!! It doesn't seem very cold, until it's too late!!

Use your brains when in the wilderness, or Mother Nature will teach you a lesson that may never forget...and a lesson that could cost you dearly!!! Hot or cold, it doesn't matter!!! :s
 
Dang, I never had the pleasure to experience -50F temperature. I hope I never will. :p New York winters were already bad enough for me.
 
A good quick indication of whether we need water is to look at the color of our pee. A light yellow, good. A darker yellow means we need water. Getting towards brownish...... hydrate NOW!!

My hunting buddy is like a camel. Drinks an entire bottle of water then can work for an hour. Me, I sip water constantly. Being borderline diabetic, I dehydrate easily. I keep a water bottle in reach at all times.
 
Even better... pinch the skin on the back of your hand. It should immediately return to normal. The slower it takes to return to normal, the more dehydrated you are. I'm willing to bet that, right now, there are several of you who read this, try the pinch test and are slightly dehydrated. Now go drink some water!
 
One has to remember when sweating you are loosing more than water; your sweat is full of sodium and potassium. Although rare, people have died from low electrolyte levels brought on by drinking lots of plain water (hyponatremia). If you are sweating and drinking a lot, it is prudent to add elecrtrolytes: fruit or fruit juice is very good, lots of stuff for runners and bikers (I mix Gookinade when hiking in hot conditions). -- Spiff
 
compassrose said:
Even better... pinch the skin on the back of your hand. It should immediately return to normal. The slower it takes to return to normal, the more dehydrated you are. I'm willing to bet that, right now, there are several of you who read this, try the pinch test and are slightly dehydrated. Now go drink some water!

Depends on your age, though. Skin turgor takes a real hit later in life. ;)
 
I remember working on a dam in 100 degree weather..had no sunblock like an idiot and only water. I wanted to hurl myself off that dam. At lunch i bought gatorade, for electrolites, and it saved my life i think. It was very noticable. Next day i brought some, lip balm and sunscreen and worlds better lol
 
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