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fredcdobbs

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<p>About 17 years ago I sold my clinical office, most of my possessions, put the rest (still a alot) in storage, bought a Toyota mini-camper at auction, and lived in it for two years. Much of it was off and on parked in the driveway of my sister's, but then had to boondock when her landlord complained. Nonetheless, it was the freest time of my life, and it was the fullfillment of a childhood dream. But I got tired of the rootless feeling and being made fun of by some. I also tired of constantly looking for a place to park. I live in the heart of Los Angeles, am single, and never really have had a desire to roam around outside of the city. I pretty much just wanted to keep the same routine as when I had an apartment: going to the gym, running 10k races, my 12th step meetings and so forth. But the parking thing in the city is tough. Always trying to keep a low profile was not easy, especially in my little camper. I had it fixed up with all the amenities including a generator, A/C, hot shower, full kitchen, the whole bit. I was amazed how self sufficient I was, and besides the drawbacks mentioned earlier, I never missed a fixed dwelling AT ALL. And I used to write in my journal every month the money I was saving. It went into the thousands and thousands. When my money finally ran out I went back to work in my profession, sold the camper, rented an apartment across the street from my sister's, and slowly started to possess things again. Then I moved closer to where most of my former activities were near the Hollywood area, and have been here since (7 1/2 years). But the place immediately gave me severe allergies and was hospitalized. Two powerful air cleaners helped, but the allergies are always present. I live just behind a liguor store in a very nice gentrified location, but parking is a premium and I struggle to keep people from parking in my spot, trashing, thoughless neighbors, etc. When I first moved here I only wanted to stay until the housing balloon would burst and I could buy a house. Well houses are now down to when I first moved in years ago, interest rates extremely low. But my dilemma is Idon't want to live in a fixed place anymore, but if I don't buy now I'll never be able to afford one. I thought of buying something, renting it out with a covenant that I get to use a place to park a van or motorhome. But even that idea makes my feel stressed with thought of &nbsp;owning and being responsible for that huge possession. I have been&nbsp;driving around the local neighborhoods&nbsp;at night seeing if I can detect mobile dwellers. Has any one of you gone through this hard decision making process with all the fears and ambivalence? I go back and forth on the type of unit I should get. I pretty much know I want a van, but the more stealth, the less convenience. Can I tolerate a regular van, or should I go high top for standing room but much&nbsp;less stealth. Generator or no. I just don't want to feel rootless and alone&nbsp;out there and always&nbsp;worrying about the cops. I get a strong feeling that I just want to just go to a dealer, get a new or used&nbsp;van, leave all my sh*t to whoever wants if, put a bed in the van and just get the h*ll out of where I'm at. I want to be free in every way. I'm 62 now and I don't know how much time I got left. You people are the only ones I can share this with because I don't trust other's reactions, not even at 12th meetings, though I did share this with my therapist of 6 years and she says "why not". She says I shouldn't try to conceal this from people. That it is who I am and if they don't acept it, it's their problem, and I'll know who my friends are. Sorry for the long intro.&nbsp;</p>
 
http://www.latimes.com/features/home/hometours/small/ I appreciate the catharsis of baring your soul.

If you want to continue your practice but need a minimalist lifestyle, why not buy an EXTREMELY small, alternative place with guaranteed parking? Stay there while you work and outfit your vehicle? Sometimes just knowing you can escape is all the pressure valve you need.

When i say a small place, I'm talking a couple hundred sq ft or less... think Tiny House / Asian style condo with parking.
 
<p>Thanks. That thought of a tiny little place like that has also occurred to me. It's nice to know others think of this stuff.</p>
 
It's hard to offer advice when we don't completely know your situation. DW has retired, and I'm not far from it. There's always this concern of 'do we have enough resources' to live the mobile lifestyle? Then there's the thought, "We don't know how much time we're going to have", so we know we want to enjoy the remaining time together to the max. When it comes down to it, you have to weigh the pros and cons and decide which will make you happier: the security of a job and fixed income, or the feeling of freedom you may achieve cutting that cord.<br /><br />Were it me, I'd go for a hightop, full size van, but I wouldn't want to hang around the city. Too crowded, too expensive, too difficult to find places to park. Travel a bit, and see what there is to see.&nbsp; Electronic banking makes it easy to access funds when necessary. Otherwise, P_man had a good suggestion.<br /><br />Understand the allergies - DW has bad ones as well. One reason we plan to leave the area we live. Living and suffering does not constitute 'living', imo.<br /><br /><br />Make your decision then work for it. Have you the finances to be independent (rhetorical)? Can you manage or supplement your income while travelling?<br /><br />It's your life. How do you WANT to live the phase of your life?<br /><br /><br />
 
Welcome Fred.<br /><span style="color: #ff00ff;"><strong>Dragonfly</strong></span>
 
Seraphim said:
It's hard to offer advice when we don't completely know your situation. DW has retired, and I'm not far from it. There's always this concern of 'do we have enough resources' to live the mobile lifestyle? Then there's the thought, "We don't know how much time we're going to have", so we know we want to enjoy the remaining time together to the max. When it comes down to it, you have to weigh the pros and cons and decide which will make you happier: the security of a job and fixed income, or the feeling of freedom you may achieve cutting that cord.<br /><br />Were it me, I'd go for a hightop, full size van, but I wouldn't want to hang around the city. Too crowded, too expensive, too difficult to find places to park. Travel a bit, and see what there is to see.&nbsp; Electronic banking makes it easy to access funds when necessary. Otherwise, P_man had a good suggestion.<br /><br />Understand the allergies - DW has bad ones as well. One reason we plan to leave the area we live. Living and suffering does not constitute 'living', imo.<br /><br /><br />Make your decision then work for it. Have you the finances to be independent (rhetorical)? Can you manage or supplement your income while travelling?<br /><br />It's your life. How do you WANT to live the phase of your life?<br /><br /><br />
<br />My financial situation for mobile living is very good. I took an early retirement with reduced benefits but still not bad at all. My credit is excellent so I can buy either a new or used van. I almost bought a near&nbsp;new&nbsp;Roadtrek about 5 years ago but glad I didn't because the interest rates were so high then. Now, I prefer something I can alter to suit my needs. L.A. can get pretty hot and I have to consider an AC and possibly a generator to run it. But then again it reduces stealth. Even when my income was high I always preferred more frugal spaces to rent. I consider apartments as just a place to sleep. For a person my age I am extremely active with exercise and exploring new things. I sing and take classes.&nbsp;<br />&nbsp;My current apartment is a basement, single room apartment about 12x20, and yet I need use half that space. The rest is used up by junk I never use anyway.<br />&nbsp; In the past when I have gotten rid of my posessions I always felt totally relieved and free and rarely regretted discarding an item. I am a hoarder by nature and get trapped by possessions easliy. That was one of the great benefits of living in my camper, I never was tempted to buy things because they just wouldn't fit in it. I love the feeling of being able to just get up and leave a location on a moments notice and not have to worry about taking my "stuff" with me. When I was in college I kept only enough possessions that would fit in my old 1952 Ford van. It was the best time of my life as far as materialism was concerned. It's a great feeling to have only what you truly use everyday. I have a life's goal to get back to that and be absolutely free. Actually, it's very exciting knowing I'm close to getting back to that.
 
Sounds like you're set then. Check bljak's build thread - he did wonders with a rental storage unit as a day room/workshop and customized a van &nbsp; which leaves him free to hit the road whenever.&nbsp;<br /><br />If only I could talk DW into selling the house...
 
<span style="color: #008000;"><strong><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: medium;">Welcome, Fred! <img src="../images/boards/smilies/wave.gif" alt="" align="absmiddle" border="0" /></span></strong></span><br /><br /><span style="color: #008000;"><strong><span style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: medium;">Bob</span></strong></span>
 
<p>Hello Fred,<br /><br />Welcome!&nbsp; This is a great place to hang out and learn from each other as we figure out which direction to go.&nbsp; <br /><br />Plan what you can, proceed as you are best able, and then learn and adapt.&nbsp; I am finding out that this journey is much different than first thought ...&nbsp; Still, it&nbsp;is fun and there's no real right or wrong way to do it.&nbsp; Each new day is a new learning experience.<br /><br />Have fun!</p><p>V.T.</p>
 
Hi, welcome. I just made the decision to move into my pickup. I cant tell you what is best for you, but I went thru the same things you talk about.I think you will find your answers if you look inside yourself. Write down all the things that are bothering you.&nbsp; think about what you want to do in each situation and do what feels right to you. Sometimes what feels right to you isnt what society says is right. Maybe you just need someone to tell you its OK to do what you want to make yourself happy.
 

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