'04 E350 6.0L V8 Turbo Diesel ?

[BradKW]

Thoughts on this truck? Specifically the engine...I sent an email inquiring about milfage, what might be reasonable on this diesel for $10,800?
Oh, and in 3rd pic below...think that's a pass thru, and why would that fan be there?  Thanks  

https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/ctd/5471322118.html

 

[highdesertranger]

Ford blow up diesel. seriously the 6.0 is Ford's worse attempt at a diesel. just do a search. highdesertranger

 

[BradKW]

Ford blow up diesel. seriously the 6.0 is Ford's worse attempt at a diesel. just do a search. highdesertranger

Yeah, been doing just that...bummer, nice looking truck.

On bright side, I coined a new word in my original post: milfage. I can think of some good definitions

 

[highdesertranger]

I am not taking the bait on that one. highdesertranger

 

[Gary68]

yea.low milfage is not always a good thing,if the previous owner keep up with the oil and lube higher milfage can out perform lower milfage

 

[Konaexpress]

Milfage.......not touching that one! I have the CNG phobia............

Nice looking rig but I defer to the more knowledgeable members here.

John

 

[Txjaybird]

Yeah, been doing just that...bummer, nice looking truck.

On bright side, I coined a new word in my original post: milfage.  I can think of some good definitions  

I think that comes right after oldage      :angel:  Do i wanna know about CNG phobia?    I have been accused of  sometimes having bouts of CBS.....but only by very fast runners that know how to zig zag      

 

[wagoneer]

Why don't you buy my 2001 E350xl high top for $6,500 7.3 power stroke if you want diesel and good milage fly out drive it back, been across the country and back new injectors, transmission and solar I just never built it out. 7.3 are bullet proof.

 

[SaltySeaWitch]

Milfage..... bahahahahahahahahaha!!

I almost spit coffee everywhere. I love it

 

[highdesertranger]

there you go wagoner's 7.3. the 7.3 is Ford's ONLY good diesel. highdesertranger

 

[BradKW]

Actually spent some time today kicking the idea around, since when I started on this idea 6+ months ago my idea of what I wanted and needed in a vehicle has changed some. But for now, I'm still feeling that I want something that has more stealth potential and ability to pass for a commercial/tradesman's vehicle than a high top.

After feeling a bit turned off on my initial choice of Sprinters due mainly to the problems associated with potential expensive maintenance on a diesel engine that has very few qualified shops, I've just started taking a closer look at some of the older, proven diesels for 2 reasons: box truck milfage on gas is really bad, and buying a diesel with 150k miles feels fairly safe.

 

[highdesertranger]

I like your idea. just stay away from any Ford except the 7.3. highdesertranger

 

[NeedAnEscape]

I like your idea.  just stay away from any Ford except the 7.3.  highdesertranger

The 6.9l is good as well, but it's almost the same thing as the non-computer 7.3l. Both are the same design, just the 6.9l has a smaller combustion chamber.

 

[highdesertranger]

yeah I agree the 6.9 is a good engine. I kinda of lump the 7.3 and 6.9 in the same basket. like the chevy 6.2 and 6.5. I guess I need to make that more clear. thanks lost. highdesertranger

 

[Zeke]

I have a Ford 6.0. While that model has certainly given its owners more than their fair share of problems, there is a bright side. These are very popular trucks and many smart, motivated owners and mechanics have spent their time examining them and figuring out the set of problems afflicting the engines. Once these are taken care of (and yes, it is a long list: head bolts, egr cooler, oil cooler, coolant filtration system, oil filtration system, replacement of high pressure oil pump system parts, coolant reservoir cap, etc.) a lot of the owners on the various Ford diesel forums seem satisfied with their trucks. I can't speak to the price of the truck, but clearly how much, if any, of the above bullet-proofing was done is important.

Here are some links to general information about the engine:

http://www.badgertrek.com/sportsmobile/Bulletproofing.shtml - owners of a 6.0 Sportsmobile van listing the repairs and upgrades they made

http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/...liter-diesel-biodiesel-mechanics-perspective/ - part 1
http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/blog/ford-6-0-liter-high-pressure-oil-pump/ - part 2 of a diesel mechanic discussing the 6.0, more than just biodiesel covered in these two posts

http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/ - manufacturers of a widely used replacement egr cooler, lots of good information on their website, particularly the 'Information Center' section

 

[eDJ_]

This outfit has some unique ideas about retrofitting Diesel Engines.  Perhaps the best solution for the Ford 6 leaker.

Shade Tree Diesels North Carolina

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These are mechanical Diesel retrofits.  So there may be some electronic alterations necessary or
transmission retrofits also.

 

[Optimistic Paranoid]

I have a Ford 6.0. While that model has certainly given its owners more than their fair share of problems, there is a bright side. These are very popular trucks and many smart, motivated owners and mechanics have spent their time examining them and figuring out the set of problems afflicting the engines. Once these are taken care of (and yes, it is a long list: head bolts, egr cooler, oil cooler, coolant filtration system, oil filtration system, replacement of high pressure oil pump system parts, coolant reservoir cap, etc.) a lot of the owners on the various Ford diesel forums seem satisfied with their trucks. I can't speak to the price of the truck, but clearly how much, if any, of the above bullet-proofing was done is important.

Here are some links to general information about the engine:

http://www.badgertrek.com/sportsmobile/Bulletproofing.shtml - owners of a 6.0 Sportsmobile van listing the repairs and upgrades they made

http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/...liter-diesel-biodiesel-mechanics-perspective/ - part 1
http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/blog/ford-6-0-liter-high-pressure-oil-pump/ - part 2 of a diesel mechanic discussing the 6.0, more than just biodiesel covered in these two posts

http://www.bulletproofdiesel.com/ - manufacturers of a widely used replacement egr cooler, lots of good information on their website, particularly the 'Information Center' section

Well, it's true that there are fixes for pretty much everything that is wrong with the Ford 6.0 diesel.

But lets see, you start with a truck that costs a lot more than the same gas engine model.  Then you spend a ton of money to fix all the stuff the factory SHOULD have gotten right in the first place.  Plus the automatic tranny probably needs some mods, too, to handle all the extra torque without puking it's guts all over the road.

When you are done, you find that the extra money probably would have paid for your gasoline for the next ten years.  Plus, unlike the gas engine trucks, you pretty much have to stay in the US or Canada, cause the Ultra Low Sulfur Fuel just ain't available south of the border, and the diesel fuel down there will wreck these newer diesel motors even WITH all the trick modifications.

A few people may need a diesel - I'm thinking of people who pull heavy trailers up mountain highways - but the average person here should forget the popular wisdom that 'diesels are cheaper to run" and "diesels last forever" and just buy a truck with a gas engine.

IMNPHO

Regards
John

 

[highdesertranger]

the general consensus seems to be that 10k will fix the issues. for that kinda of money I could rebuild my whole truck bumper to bumper. highdesertranger

 

[BradKW]

What's your take on this 2006 FORD CUBE VAN DIESEL JUST 33K MILES, http://www.commercialtrucktrader.co...an-Diesel-Just-33k-Miles-One-Owner--116575487

That lists the diesel engine only as "International" ?

 

[highdesertranger]

it's actually a Navistar engine which is what international harvester is called nowadays, they changed their name in 1986. and that would be a 6.0. highdesertranger